I think the brain is a locus where information is gathered to interact in a complex process that produces signals that stimulate responses in different parts of the body. The brain clearly has different parts which show an evolutionary development from simpler organisms. In some parts of the brain the information flow to outgoing sygnals is "hardwired", that is determined by the genetic code. However, I think that a large part of the brain in the "newer sections" (in an evolutionary sense) is a space for the free interaction of information. In the beginning many of the outgoing signals from this free portion are random, but there is an inherent feedback loop in which the outgoing signals effect incomming information. I believe that the primitive hardwired portions of the brain acts a bit like a catalyst in forming structures in the information flow in free part of the brain. From the primitive brain there are some initial hardwired objectives like hunger but eventually the dynamic structures in the free brain develop its own objectives like entertainment. Kids talking about not getting any fun reminds me a bit like that robot in the movie "Short Circuit" out hunting for INPUT. They act like they are going to die if they don't get any. It is so powerful that supercedes the hunger for food, so what are they feeding? Thus the brain is an environment in which develop the dynamic structures of information flow, which we call the human mind. This process can be described somewhat by the mathematics of chaotic dynamics. I think that this process by which a dynamic structure develops, adapts and evolves is the essence of all living things. I think that biological organisms developed on this planet in the same way but simply in a different medium. Instead of structures in the cyclical information flow of the brain it was structures in cyclical chemical processes. Thus I believe that the human mind is a living organism in its own right, that lives in the human brain. But the human mind is just as much a physical organism as any biological organism. The intensity and speed of dynamic evolution and adaptation to the environment (which we call learning) in the mind may far outstrip its biological counterparts but the process is qualitatively more of the same thing. If there is something nonphysical involved in the operation of the human brain then that same something must be equally involved in all processes of life, for there is no essential qualitative difference. If we limit ourselves to pure reason, the non-physical interaction may be found in only one place, and that is at the limits of causality described by physics. There is only one such limit and it is found in quantum physics (see my earlier post on this thread) at the point where a living organism chooses between equally possible reponses to an environmental stimulus and sees its self as the cause. These choices we make create the only part of ourselves which is not bound by the physical laws of the universe to destruction and decay. This is the origin of any true fear of death, for those choices are all that remains and whether these remains live or die depends on those choices. If there are no such non-physcal remains then no worries, and death is nothing to fear. In that case, I might as well just see how much I can get away with until the inevitable happens.